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Post by Colin Wee on Nov 21, 2005 17:54:26 GMT 8
This poll is for all martial arts practitioners who train in systems which use kata. Please do not fill this in if you do Chang Hon type TKD.
The objective of this poll is to understand how much patterns feature in your training.
Once you've voted, please tell us more about how your training is organised. What is your training like?
Thank you.
Colin
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Post by supergroup7 on Nov 21, 2005 22:09:46 GMT 8
You've asked the wrong martial artist, when you asked me this question. Kata is central to my path.. I couldn't imagine training in karate without kata. It is what I look forwards to after all the training is done. It is what will buoy me through my old age. Kata is the fullest expression of my inner spirit.
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Post by Colin Wee on Nov 21, 2005 22:40:55 GMT 8
You've asked the wrong martial artist, when you asked me this question. Kata is central to my path.. I couldn't imagine training in karate without kata. It is what I look forwards to after all the training is done. It is what will buoy me through my old age. Kata is the fullest expression of my inner spirit. Are you referring to your own interest in kata or is this a reflection of the training you're receiving. The point of the poll is to figure out if kata plays a central role in your training environment. Colin
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Post by sifuwhite on Nov 22, 2005 2:15:35 GMT 8
I like kata to emphasis certain life like techniques that they can use all the time. In Fact my son Patrick is always trying to show me what he interprets in the forms. Nice Poll.
Tim
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Post by supergroup7 on Nov 22, 2005 3:54:45 GMT 8
OOOppss.. sorry, Colin...
The extent that kata forms part of my training depended on the Sensei that I trained under:
Sensei Walter Crockford (Shotokan) leaned on kata alot. I'd say that 75% of the class was kata based... The exercises, the basics, even the sparring we did linked back to a concept contained in kata somehow. There wasn't a class that went on without a good amount of kata to warm us up with, or to tire us out with.
Sensei Angel Carrasco usually brings in kata near the end of the class. I'd guess that 20 % of our class is devoted to kata.
My other Sensei (Shotokan) will devote whole classes to kata, but it is usually once a week. So you could say that kata makes up 35% of our learning experience.
Sensei Jerry Marr (Shotokan) always made kata about 1/3 of the class time. 30% He'd springboard other concepts to focus on off of the kata that you just performed.
Sensei Yaguchi (Shotokan) brought kata into the picture about 35% of the time.
Sensei Clive Thomas (Shotokan) teaches kata interspersed in class.. you never know when it will pop up. So some days it makes up over 70% of the class.. and then you can go 3 days with hardly 10% of kata.
I have heard of some dojo wherein kata is taught only once a month. I cannot picture someone really grasping the depth of the kata with that infrequent amount of training.
Is this the type of information you were looking for, Colin?
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Post by Colin Wee on Nov 22, 2005 9:03:03 GMT 8
Is this the type of information you were looking for, Colin? Boy you're enthusiastic! Yes, that was more of the answer I was looking for. It's easy to say I love kata or I hate kata. But to relate it to the training at hand means you are actively thinking about training, doing the kata, and making sense of your martial art. Colin
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Post by wmioch on Nov 22, 2005 10:22:50 GMT 8
Kata? At least once a class I'd say. It's used as a technique respository, a philosophical framework and sometimes a meditative tool. But I wouldn't say it mapped out the last system I trained in. I guess I'm going in the middle.
Bill
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Post by sifuwhite on Nov 23, 2005 22:36:11 GMT 8
I like katas/forms that move quickly from one technique to the other. This way I get a movement that is true to life. However, I do like some power techniques along the way. They are the spirit of the kata/form.
Sifu White
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Post by sifuwhite on Feb 16, 2006 12:27:41 GMT 8
I just figured it out 14% of our training time is devoted to Kata or Forms.
Sigung White
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Post by Colin Wee on Feb 16, 2006 13:20:53 GMT 8
I just figured it out 14% of our training time is devoted to Kata or Forms. Sigung White How did you figure that out? What do you feel about this value? Colin
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Post by sifuwhite on Feb 16, 2006 20:25:21 GMT 8
Well, I take in consideration of How many times we meet. How many practice sessions we have forms and go from there.
Tim
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Post by Colin Wee on Feb 16, 2006 21:03:08 GMT 8
Well, I take in consideration of How many times we meet. How many practice sessions we have forms and go from there. Tim What do you feel about this value? Is it more or less than expected? Is it accomplishing what you set out to do? Colin
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Post by sifuwhite on Feb 17, 2006 4:56:01 GMT 8
Right now it is doing what I need for it to do, but in the near future it will be about 40-50 percent. The reason being is that in Keisatsu Jujitsu, there are 15 short forms. They have less that 20 movements. I am making them a priority most likey by the summer time. If I don't start teaching all of them I might forget them, and I do want to put them on video by then as well.
Sifu White
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Post by supergroup7 on Feb 17, 2006 5:55:06 GMT 8
If I don't start teaching all of them I might forget them, and I do want to put them on video by then as well.
Sifu White, you may find that putting yourself doing kata on video is a GREAT addition to your own training, and to your students. I would strongly recommend this option to you.
It offers a chance to see yourself from the outside, and to show your students those special touches of self expression within the parameters of the kata.
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Post by Colin Wee on Apr 6, 2006 13:13:00 GMT 8
[Sifu White, you may find that putting yourself doing kata on video is a GREAT addition to your own training, and to your students. I would strongly recommend this option to you. I would agree. I have done video of myself doing kata before. I don't think I gained much from the actual kata itself. It was as I had envisioned myself doing it. Colin
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