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Post by sifuwhite on Nov 15, 2005 18:38:56 GMT 8
This is an advanced form for the Molum Pai Kung Fu System. In Fact it is the shortest form we have. It is done at the Sr. Black Belt level. It is a close combat type of form, which uses distraction techniques, double hand techniques and the leopards paw punch also know as the giner fist. If you get the video of Master Dave's Tournament on Oct 15, 2005 from the website. at the end of the video I am performing the form.
Sifu Tim
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Post by wmioch on Nov 15, 2005 20:12:49 GMT 8
Can you provide the less knowledgeable of us with a link?
Bill
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Post by sifuwhite on Nov 29, 2005 9:40:31 GMT 8
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Post by wmioch on Nov 29, 2005 12:24:42 GMT 8
I will have to wait until I get home. It's a 200+ meg file!
Bill
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Post by sifuwhite on Nov 30, 2005 20:22:12 GMT 8
Great have fun watching it.
Sifu White
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Post by sifuwhite on Jun 4, 2007 6:43:15 GMT 8
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Post by sifuwhite on Jun 4, 2007 6:44:39 GMT 8
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Post by Will Senn on Jun 4, 2007 22:52:00 GMT 8
I downloaded both the mini-seminar video and the tournament video and wasn't able to locate the kata. Was it at the very end of one of the two videos or a different video altogether.
By the way, I like the knife defense in the mini seminar - your weight drop and moving to the inside is well demonstrated - not sure the TKD folks picked up how important these subtleties are but they are nicely done, regardless.
Will
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Post by sifuwhite on Jun 5, 2007 8:40:42 GMT 8
Will,
Sorry, I thought had put the form at this forum I will post it now....
Tim
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Post by sifuwhite on Jun 5, 2007 8:42:00 GMT 8
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Post by Will Senn on Jun 5, 2007 10:20:20 GMT 8
Very interesting kata, I'm gonna have to cogitate on this for a bit. It's very reminiscent of some advanced shotokan forms I've seen. Remember, I've only been doing Renbudo for 6 months, so there's plenty of shotokan kata I haven't seen and I've only been introduced to seven - some are very, very similar to the Tang Soo Do or Chungi forms I know. Your kata and some of the advanced shotokan and goju kata are pretty far afield from anything I've actually done. I'm thinking some chinese influence?
Your interpretations seem reasonable - I'm glad that you aren't totally sold on the efficacy of the hand block/strikes to the leg. I admit that the leg can be blocked by the hand, but it is very difficult and easy, even for an expert, to miss or otherwise screw up. The strike above the knee, intercepting the kick before the power develops is the most practical, but requires good timing.
Thanks,
Will
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Post by Colin Wee on Jun 5, 2007 21:07:38 GMT 8
Very interesting kata, I'm gonna have to cogitate on this for a bit. It's very reminiscent of some advanced shotokan forms I've seen. Remember, I've only been doing Renbudo for 6 months, so there's plenty of shotokan kata I haven't seen and I've only been introduced to seven - some are very, very similar to the Tang Soo Do or Chungi forms I know. Your kata and some of the advanced shotokan and goju kata are pretty far afield from anything I've actually done. I'm thinking some chinese influence? Advanced shotokan katas apparently are a throw back to Chinese forms, transmitting older styled forms without the linear influences of Matsumura, Itosu, and Funakoshi. I reckon that they are there to preserve 'complementary' skills that Itosu didn't want his students to lose touch of. Now that you're training again you should have no problems generating the speed. :-) Colin
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Post by Will Senn on Jun 6, 2007 21:00:46 GMT 8
One of the coolest things about studying Renbudo is how it amplifies my natural speed. I'm already reasonably quick, but with Sensei Proctor's attention to the line and circle, it's been a blast seeing some techniques that I do get very much 'faster'. This form is totally in line, no pun intended , with the concepts I've been working on and refining lately. It really highlights the sometimes difficult to discern connection between my style (Chung Do Kwan/Tang Soo Do/TKD with a healthy helping of Aikido and Aiki Ju Jitsu, a dash of Judo, Kyokushin and more recently, Renbudo) and the chinese arts. The distractions are similar to techniques in Aiki Ju Jitsu, the small circle movements of the body and hand, similar to concepts in Renbudo and so on. As beginners, we tend to think that we are 'descended' from a lineage of reasonably pure styles. As we study we come to learn otherwise, and it is both disappointing and invigorating, at the same time. Disappointing, because it seems as though the world lacks purity where we thought it didn't and invigorating in that the wildest Kung Fu artist has techniques in common with the most mundane Karateka. It is good to be connected. Now, where do I go to learn Choi Li Fut? Will
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Post by Colin Wee on Jun 6, 2007 21:39:25 GMT 8
I don't think it's about purity but rather a philosophical approach to conflict resolution. Some people prefer a more direct approach. Some prefer misdirection. Major strategic differences produce different ways of using the human body.
Take me for instance - I couldn't use what I was taught in my previous martial art until I figured out what I was learning in Dallas. After a few years, then I could go back and include stuff that I was previously trained in because I know how it fit within my new bag of skills.
Colin
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Post by sifuwhite on Jun 9, 2007 7:53:00 GMT 8
One of the coolest things about studying Renbudo is how it amplifies my natural speed. I'm already reasonably quick, but with Sensei Proctor's attention to the line and circle, it's been a blast seeing some techniques that I do get very much 'faster'. This form is totally in line, no pun intended , with the concepts I've been working on and refining lately. It really highlights the sometimes difficult to discern connection between my style (Chung Do Kwan/Tang Soo Do/TKD with a healthy helping of Aikido and Aiki Ju Jitsu, a dash of Judo, Kyokushin and more recently, Renbudo) and the chinese arts. The distractions are similar to techniques in Aiki Ju Jitsu, the small circle movements of the body and hand, similar to concepts in Renbudo and so on. As beginners, we tend to think that we are 'descended' from a lineage of reasonably pure styles. As we study we come to learn otherwise, and it is both disappointing and invigorating, at the same time. Disappointing, because it seems as though the world lacks purity where we thought it didn't and invigorating in that the wildest Kung Fu artist has techniques in common with the most mundane Karateka. It is good to be connected. Now, where do I go to learn Choi Li Fut? Will Will, You can go to the SMU campus and look up Leo T. Fong. GM of Choi Li Fut Kung Fu. He has more than that one form to learn I am sure. Tim
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